ross perot running and getting 19% on the fact that he had -- read my lips, no new taxes. the economic woes of that year. but nevertheless, his inaction of andrew was noticeable and in 2005, you know, george w. bush asked president his flyover of katrina got people very, very angry. in many ways, it hurt the republican party in 2008 along with the war in iraq and the economic crisis of '08, it was sort of the third horseman of the woes that w brought on the country that he didn't seem to care enough during the time of the katrina disaster. >> jennifer: you wrote about this in the great deluge. you wrote after katrina the gulf south region and the united states as a whole needed compassion. what it got instead was the incompetence of george w. bush who acted as though he were disinterested in a natural disaster in which there was no enemy to be found. bush's slow responses to the great deluge made americans ask if he was a bunker commander in chief. and many people would argue that he never recovered from that. would you agree? >> i agree and i was in new orleans when katri